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		<title>By: <img src='http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/google.png'/> sneaky</title>
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		<description>And in my explanation, I used them sloppily! Whoops.

&gt;&gt;  for nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information.

All nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information. I should have said &quot; for nonrestrictive clauses, which provide parenthetical information.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in my explanation, I used them sloppily! Whoops.</p>
<p>>>  for nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information.</p>
<p>All nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information. I should have said &#8221; for nonrestrictive clauses, which provide parenthetical information.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/google.png'/> sneaky</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick comment on the post, I hadn&#039;t even fixed all the typos yet!

I use &quot;that&quot; for restrictive clauses, which are an integral part of the sentence. I use &quot;which&quot; (separated by commas) for nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information.

It is pretty widely thought they are interchangeable or that &quot;which&quot; is merely more formal, but I think this leads to sloppy thinking and poor writing.

&lt;I ate the cookies that were on the counter&gt; This has a nuance of &quot;there may be other cookies that are 1) not on the counter and thus 2) not eaten by the speaker&quot;.

&lt;I ate the cookies, which were on the counter.&gt;  Here &quot;which&quot; just introduces extra information. 

This is a poor example (its almost bedtime!), but there are definitely cases where using &quot;which&quot; and &quot;that&quot; interchangeably will lead to unclear writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick comment on the post, I hadn&#8217;t even fixed all the typos yet!</p>
<p>I use &#8220;that&#8221; for restrictive clauses, which are an integral part of the sentence. I use &#8220;which&#8221; (separated by commas) for nonrestrictive clauses that provide parenthetical information.</p>
<p>It is pretty widely thought they are interchangeable or that &#8220;which&#8221; is merely more formal, but I think this leads to sloppy thinking and poor writing.</p>
<p><i ate the cookies that were on the counter> This has a nuance of &#8220;there may be other cookies that are 1) not on the counter and thus 2) not eaten by the speaker&#8221;.</p>
<p></i><i ate the cookies, which were on the counter.>  Here &#8220;which&#8221; just introduces extra information. </p>
<p>This is a poor example (its almost bedtime!), but there are definitely cases where using &#8220;which&#8221; and &#8220;that&#8221; interchangeably will lead to unclear writing.</i></p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/facebook.png'/> Blain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 14:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may get a kick out of a book that I read a few years ago.  It&#039;s called &quot;Between You and I: A Little Book of Bad English&quot; by James Cochrane.  He talks about quite a few similar things that you mentioned.

BTW: I have a question for you regarding the use of &quot;that&quot; and &quot;which&quot;.  Some people are of the opinion that the two terms are interchangeable.  Others--such as myself--believe that they are not, and that they serve two very different purposes.  What&#039;s your take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may get a kick out of a book that I read a few years ago.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;Between You and I: A Little Book of Bad English&#8221; by James Cochrane.  He talks about quite a few similar things that you mentioned.</p>
<p>BTW: I have a question for you regarding the use of &#8220;that&#8221; and &#8220;which&#8221;.  Some people are of the opinion that the two terms are interchangeable.  Others&#8211;such as myself&#8211;believe that they are not, and that they serve two very different purposes.  What&#8217;s your take?</p>
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