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		<title>Positively Pomegranate UPDATE!</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/yulzopolis/domestic-life/positively-pomegranate-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Today I finally got a response in regard to my complaint about the positively disgusting pomegranate Orbit Gum that I sent to the Wrigley Gum Company.  The letter, printed below, was full of corporate doublespeak, vague promises, and NO coupon for free gum!
What is the world coming to?  Is the recession taking that big [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-774" title="orbitgum-001" src="http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/orbitgum-001-300x225.jpg" alt="orbitgum-001" width="218" height="163" /> Today I finally got a response in regard to <a href="http://www.flockofcats.com/yulzopolis/domestic-life/positively-pomegranate-positively-disgusting/" target="_blank">my complaint about the positively disgusting pomegranate Orbit Gum</a> that I sent to the Wrigley Gum Company.  The letter, printed below, was full of corporate doublespeak, vague promises, and <strong>NO</strong> coupon for free gum!</p>
<p>What is the world coming to?  Is the recession taking that big a toll on the gum industry that they can&#8217;t send a coupon for a free pack of gum to a customer that was truly disgusted by one of their products?  I took the time to write and sent back the entire package of gum (minus two pieces for A-Yo and I), and the best they can do is a letter from a customer service representative?  Seriously.  They are the number one gum-seller in the world with <a href="http://www.hoovers.com/wrigley/--ID__11648,ticker__--/free-co-fin-factsheet.xhtml" target="_blank">annual revenue of $5.4 billion and 2007 profits of $2.3 billion</a> and they can&#8217;t give me a free pack of gum in a flavor that I can stomach?</p>
<p>To be fair, I did not ask for a free coupon &#8211; partly because I did not want to seem like I was only writing to get something for free rather than truly complaining, and also I was curious to how they would rectify the situation without my asking for specific recourse.  Well, I guess we know the answer to that now.  NUTS TO YOU WM. WRIGLEY JR. COMPANY, SUBSIDIARY OF CANDY CONGLOMERATE MARS, INC!!!</p>
<p>Their letter is below the jump:<span id="more-795"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Yulzopolis,</p>
<p>Thank you for letting us know how you feel about Orbit® Positively Pomegranate gum.  We&#8217;re happy to hear from you and we truly value your feedback.  Input from customers like you helps us to constantly make improvements and ensure that we are always providing you with top-quality products.</p>
<p>We introduced Orbit® Positively Pomegranate gum to provide customers with a fresh, new flavor for the brand they love.  We&#8217;re very sorry that you didn&#8217;t like this flavor, but we greatly appreciate you taking the time to try it and sharing your thoughts with us.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be sharing your feedback with our researchers, who are constantly working on new flavors to add to our product lineup.  We hope you&#8217;ll keep an eye out for our new products, try them when they come out and let us know what you think.  Thank you again for reaching out to us and we hope you&#8217;ll continue to enjoy Wrigley products in the future.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Sarah W.</p>
<p>Customer Affairs Representative</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Way to go Bush Administration</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/sneaky/business-and-finance/way-to-go-bush-administration/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sneaky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an article on TPM about some shenanigans at the federal pension guarantor.
One good thing about having a competent/Democratic administration, is that I have a lot more faith in the mid- and hight-level appointments.  While I think it is doubtful Bush was very hands on in this decision, he appointed the guy that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an article on TPM about some <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/genius_federal_pension_guarantor_switched_from_bon.php?ref=fp5">shenanigans at the federal pension guarantor</a>.</p>
<p>One good thing about having a competent/Democratic administration, is that I have a lot more faith in the mid- and hight-level appointments.  While I think it is doubtful Bush was very hands on in this decision, he appointed the guy that screwed it up.  And when the CBO and GAO starting raising red flags, the Bush administration either missed the warnings or willfully ignored them.</p>
<p>Bush has so many huge screw ups that it is easy to miss these relatively small ones, but they are still important.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope Obama is better at the actual work of governing, and when mistakes get made, let&#8217;s hope Obama fixes them and holds people accountable.</p>
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		<title>Positively Pomegranate, Positively Disgusting!</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/yulzopolis/domestic-life/positively-pomegranate-positively-disgusting/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This gum is absolutely gross.  I bought it today at the capitol snack bar, mainly on a whim because I was feeling sick of mint gum and I had never noticed this flavor of gum before (apparently it is a limited edition flavor, which is probably for the best).  It tasted like some sort of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-774" title="orbitgum-001" src="http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/orbitgum-001-300x225.jpg" alt="orbitgum-001" width="300" height="225" />This gum is absolutely gross.  I bought it today at the capitol snack bar, mainly on a whim because I was feeling sick of mint gum and I had never noticed this flavor of gum before (apparently it is a<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_(gum)#Flavours" target="_blank"> limited edition flavor</a>, which is probably for the best).  It tasted like some sort of horrible berry dipped in chemicals.  When I got home, A-Yo asked why I smelled like I had been in a hospital.  I was confused at first, but then realized it was because of the gum in my pocket (usually my pleasant man-scent is what people notice when I enter the room!).  Appartently, some people out there<a href="http://www.splendora.com/members/kaley_hollis/blog/orbits_positively_pomegranate_gum" target="_blank"> like the gum</a> and actually <a href="http://scottj.info/2008/09/i-miss-positively-pomegranate/" target="_blank">yearn</a> for it since it is relatively hard to find in some markets.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was certain that I would never finished the pack  (for which I spent $1.30), so I knew the only logical thing was to write a letter to Wrigley to complain and return my unwanted nasty-berry gum.  A-Yo and I had a laugh riot writing the letter, and even though we tried for a humorous tone, the gist of the complaint was real.  So their customer service people better send me some coupons for free gum&#8230;.otherwise I&#8217;m out $1.30 for the gum and $0.42 for the stamp.  Our masterwork below the jump.<span id="more-773"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Sir or Madam:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">I am writing in regards to your “Positively Pomegranate” flavor of Orbit gum.<span> </span>Unfortunately, my experience was not very positive.<span> </span>Today I purchased a pack of the pomegranate gum, and tried a piece.<span> </span>Needless-to-say, I was not pleased with the strange, berrylike taste.<span> </span>When I came home, my wife asked what smelled like some sort of chemical emanating from my coat pocket.<span> </span>I showed her my recent purchase and she was shocked and appalled.<span> </span>She tried a piece, and immediately spit it out.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">I usually don’t complain about products, and I have always been pleased with Orbit gum, even the fruit flavors.<span> </span>However, I would like to return the offending package of gum, which is enclosed within.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">What is most amazing to me is how this product made it through your product testing and focus groups.<span> </span>I am shocked and puzzled that anyone would like this flavor and recommend selling it to millions of people.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">Thank you for your time and consideration.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">Sincerely,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">Yulz!</p>
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		<title>Stimulus</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/sneaky/news-and-politics/stimulus/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sneaky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an interesting article about economic stimulus efforts in Japan.   Much of the spending has been for &#8220;bridges to nowhere&#8221; &#8212; projects which increase the national debt, but have relatively little economic value after the construction is complete.
My favorite (well&#8230;actually least favorite&#8230;) examples of wasteful construction in Japan are tetrapods, the eye sores [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting article about <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/world/asia/06japan.html">economic stimulus efforts in Japan</a>.   Much of the spending has been for &#8220;bridges to nowhere&#8221; &#8212; projects which increase the national debt, but have relatively little economic value after the construction is complete.</p>
<p>My favorite (well&#8230;actually least favorite&#8230;) examples of wasteful construction in Japan are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrapod_(structure)">tetrapods</a>, the eye sores that line every beach in Japan.  Supposedly they prevent erosion, but I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s true or not.</p>
<p>Japan has many chronically underfunded needs and problems.  For example, their is not enough affordable day care for working mothers.  This is one of serveral reasons why Japan has such a low birth rate, and as a result, women are choosing to have fewer children and having them later in life.  If Japan spent more money on day care,  it would provide direct economic stimulus by employing  more people in the child-care industry while providing further benefits from the  increased productivity of women in the workforce and helping to ease Japan&#8217;s demographic problems.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Japan&#8217;s unelected, unaccountable, and very powerful bureaucrats, along with their political benefactors decided to throw money at a $250 million dollar airports that now has two flights a day and bridges that no one uses.</p>
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		<title>Bush, Obama, the Financial Rescue, and Housing Prices</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/yulzopolis/news-and-politics/obama-and-the-financial-rescue/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, that sums it up pretty well.  Of course, maybe not all the blame should go to Bush regarding management of the financial crisis.  He was pretty much checked out at that point and Hank Paulson screwed the pooch on that one.
Hopefully Obama will do something with the rest of the bailout money to actually [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-528" title="foreclosures" src="http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/foreclosures-300x199.jpg" alt="foreclosures" width="171" height="113" />Ya, that <a href="http://www.flockofcats.com/sneaky/news-and-politics/political-odds-and-ends/" target="_blank">sums it up</a> pretty well.  Of course, maybe not all the blame should go to Bush regarding management of the financial crisis.  He was pretty much checked out at that point and Hank Paulson screwed the pooch on that one.</p>
<p>Hopefully Obama will do something with the rest of the bailout money to actually affect home foreclosures, which is what is behind the capitalization problems at banks and the problem with mortgage-backed and other credit-related securities.  And if Obama succeeds in reducing foreclosures and stabilizing the banking sector, home prices should start to rebound, and the rest of the economy along with them hopefully.  If this chain of events happens, it will be another judgement on Bush (as if history or his legacy need any more damning judgements on Bush) that he wasted months dilly-dallying with a bailout that doubled the size of the annual deficit without actually acheiving any results.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hopeful that Obama can do this and that the rest of the bailout money will be  managed better and more productively.  The crash in home prices has had a huge impact on the economy, as well as on the psyche of the population.  Yes, housing prices were overvalued and unrealistic (in some markets more than others), but the market needs to find a pricing floor, so people can accept their losses and move on.  People shouldn&#8217;t have to worry that their primary investment (or if thinking about buying a home, future investment) is going to be losing them money or is basically worthless (if you have a mortgage that is underwater).  Keeping foreclosures from flooding the market is an important step for stabilizing housing prices and stimulating the economy as a whole.</p>
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		<title>The Taxman Cometh</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/yulzopolis/domestic-life/the-taxman-cometh/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Business and Finance]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that 2008 is over, I started to do what I always do&#8230;gather up my paycheck stubs and other documents to do a rough estimate of what my taxes are for the year and how much of a refund to expect.  I logged into the free H&#38;R Block TaxCut online and started putting in some [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-442" title="taxman" src="http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/taxman.gif" alt="taxman" width="185" height="227" />Now that 2008 is over, I started to do what I always do&#8230;gather up my paycheck stubs and other documents to do a rough estimate of what my taxes are for the year and how much of a refund to expect.  I logged into the free <a href="http://www.hrblock.com/taxes/products/product.jsp?productId=31" target="_blank">H&amp;R Block TaxCut</a> online and started putting in some info.  But things didn&#8217;t get very far before I realized that my taxes this year aren&#8217;t going to be as simple.  After some false starts in the TaxCut program and other research, among the many things I have noticed that make this year a pain in the ass for taxes&#8230;</p>
<ol>
<li>I got married (legally) in 2008 &#8211; which is a plus since I get a larger standard deduction and am spending my life with the woman I love.  And since A-Yo can&#8217;t work, she has no income to bump me up into a higher bracket.  But this leads to some trouble since&#8230;</li>
<li>I&#8217;m married to a nonresident alien without a Social Security Number.  This isn&#8217;t a big deal, we just have to apply for an <a href="http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html" target="_blank">Individual Taxpayer Identification Number</a>.  And since I am a US citizen, we can choose to file jointly and count her as a<a href="http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=96734,00.html" target="_blank"> resident for tax purposes</a>.  So we have to do the ITIN form and attach a statement claiming A-Yo as a resident.  More complicated than usual, but probably a piece of cake compared with dealing with immigration bullshit with USCIS.</li>
<li>The other big change:  Moving to Colorado and taking a new job &#8211; which is good since I make more money and can deduct the <a href="http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=173193,00.html" target="_blank">moving expenses</a>.  But now&#8230;</li>
<li>I am renting out my house in Tallahassee.  So I have to count the rent I receive as <a href="http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=172596,00.html" target="_blank">rental income</a>.  But I do get to deduct all the <a href="http://www.irs.gov/publications/p527/ar02.html#d0e443" target="_blank">expenses</a> and the <a href="http://www.irs.gov/publications/p527/ar02.html#d0e2483" target="_blank">depreciation</a> of the rental property.  And since I lived in the house as my primary residence for most of the year and converted it to a <a href="http://www.irs.gov/publications/p527/ar02.html#d0e1454" target="_blank">rental mid-year</a>, I have to split  my deductions for personal use from the rental business use.  So in some ways it balances out (I get to claim my homeowner mortgage interest deduction for part of the year and claim mortgage  interest as a business expense the rest of the year), but it is a bit more complicated than usual.</li>
<li>Now that I am in Colorado, I have to pay <a href="http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Revenue/REVX/1176842266485" target="_blank">state income tax</a> (The horror!).  I had it easy for so long in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax" target="_blank">Texas and Florida</a>&#8230;this is the first time I&#8217;ll ever have to pay a state income tax <img src='http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   Hopefully it won&#8217;t be too big a pain and I&#8217;ll get a refund from that too.</li>
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<p>Taken together, all these things make my taxes this year a lot more complicated and tough to get a rough idea of how big a refund I&#8217;ll be getting.  I&#8217;ll just have to wait for all my W-2s and other tax documents to come in the mail, pay to unlock some of the advanced features in TaxCut or TurboTax (or do my taxes by hand the old fashioned way!!!), and file a little later than usual so I can make sure everything is in order.  HopefullyI won&#8217;t have to pay to go to an accountant.  I think I should be able to figure it all out and manage to pay my taxes without getting arrested for <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352370,00.html" target="_blank">tax evasion</a>.</p>
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		<title>Daily Beast: Americans Driving Less isn&#8217;t Good News!</title>
		<link>http://www.flockofcats.com/sneaky/business-and-finance/daily-beast-americans-driving-less-isnt-good-new/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sneaky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just checking out The Daily Beast for the first time.  The site looks ok, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll become a staple of my daily news binge. While reading their Cheat Sheet, I stumbled upon their summary of a  story about lower gas prices:
One bright spot for struggling Americans this holiday: gas prices hit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-405" title="gas-prices" src="http://www.flockofcats.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gas-prices-300x225.jpg" alt="gas-prices" width="113" height="85" />I was just checking out <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/">The Daily Beast</a> for the first time.  The site looks ok, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll become a staple of my daily news binge. While reading their <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/#cheatrow_1788">Cheat Sheet</a>, I stumbled upon their summary of a  story about <a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081226/D95AM4VG4.html">lower gas prices</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>One bright spot for struggling Americans this holiday: gas prices hit a five year low yesterday. &#8220;We&#8217;re paying about a billion dollars per day less than we were in July&#8221; for gasoline one analyst. &#8220;We could probably bail out some banks and maybe even some of the auto companies with the savings.&#8221; <strong>The news isn&#8217;t all goo</strong><strong>d. Pump prices have fallen in part because more families are staying home, driving nine billion fewer miles in October.</strong> Pump prices are now down to a national average of $1.64 a gallon, a far cry from the $2.98 average a year ago. Oil producing countries responded immediately with plans for more production cuts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Americans are conserving gas? That is terrible news! Americans should not only be able to get cheap gas &#8212; we should be able to use as much of it as we want!</p>
<p>I guess some of the conservation is due to bad news.  For example, people driving less because they are out of work.  However, Americans buying smaller cars, driving less, inflating their tires (suck on that McCain/Palin!), and using public transportation is great news.  </p>
<p>Actually, I think this is more sloppy editing/writing than anything else. The original AP article says that the low gas prices are &#8220;bittersweet news&#8221;, which I think was then poorly rewritten in the news summary.</p>
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		<title>GG SEIU &amp; UAW</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Between the SEIU being involved in the Blagoyjevich Senate Seat Auction and  the United Auto Workers getting blamed by many for driving their employers into bankruptcy, it hasn&#8217;t been a very good week for labor groups.  Sure the UAW isn&#8217;t the only problem, since it takes two to tango and the Big Three management agreed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/09/AR2008120903057.html" target="_blank">SEIU being involved in the Blagoyjevich Senate Seat Auction</a> and  the United Auto Workers getting blamed by many for driving their employers into bankruptcy, it hasn&#8217;t been a very good week for labor groups.  Sure <a href="http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/12/04/detroit-labor-uaw-biz-manufacturing-cz_jm_1205union.html" target="_blank">the UAW isn&#8217;t the only problem</a>, since it takes two to tango and the Big Three management agreed to the union demands and the companies would probably be bankrupt already if not for union concessions over the last several years, but the<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1205/p01s04-usec.html" target="_blank"> difference in costs, efficiency, and jobs creation</a> between unionized and non-unionized auto workers in the United States is brutal PR.  And maybe the SEIU representative didn&#8217;t really want to bribe Blago with a cushy job after he leaves office, but rolling with the pigs makes you stink too.</p>
<p>Union members have been <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/us/26labor.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" target="_blank">declining </a>for the last 50 years.  Their political involvement as an extension of the Democratic Party is good for GOTV and raising money, but I&#8217;m think public perception of hyper-political unions like SEIU (and the teamsters and others before that) has alienated many Americans from organized labor and fed the perception that all the political involvement is about advancing the interests of the union rather than the interests of the workers.</p>
<p>Pretty soon, Democrats are going to have to make a decision about where labor fits into the party&#8217;s goals. A large number of Democrats like myself are economically moderate, non-protectionist, pro-free (and fair!) trade, but unions obviously have a different agenda.  So while I&#8217;m happy for the party to reap the dollars and volunteer time of Local 434, listening to the pandering on NAFTA or card-check silliness (since that&#8217;s a great thing to spend political capital on compared with health care reform&#8230;) are enough to drive me crazy.  I think there is going to come a point when labor unions realize that most Democrats don&#8217;t support a lot of their proposed policies and most Democrats (and independents)  come to belive unions are corrupt and promote economic inefficiencies.  Of course, even with these irreconcilable differences, Big Labor doesn&#8217;t have anywhere else to go and Dems will still want labors money and time, even as the party continues to marginalize them in many ways.</p>
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		<title>Big 3 Need Some Creative Destruction</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yulzopolis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like Congress has come up with a bailout plan for the Big 3 automakers.  I&#8217;m in favor of some assistance to the companies, but only if it will result in meaningful changes in the car companies that will cut their labor and benefit costs (thanks for the link Heritage Foundation!), reduce the number [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://images.publicradio.org/content/2008/02/22/20080222_gm_chrysler_ford_18.jpg" alt="" width="132" height="132" />It looks like Congress has come up with <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122875608562688401.html" target="_blank">a bailout plan</a> for the Big 3 automakers.  I&#8217;m in favor of some assistance to the companies, but only if it will result in meaningful changes in the car companies that will cut their <a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm2162.cfm" target="_blank">labor and benefit costs</a> (thanks for the link Heritage Foundation!), reduce the number of <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122844620117782119.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" target="_blank">dealerships</a> and <a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-traverse-crossover-set-to-cannibalize-saturn-gmc/" target="_blank">brands</a> that cannibalize each other.  Consolidation and production cuts will also be needed to match output to current demand.  When it is all said and done, if the bailout and the restructuring result in the Big Three becoming the Big Two or the Not-Quite-As-Big Three, that would be much preferable to having three inefficient, lumbering corporate beasts that will likely need to be bailout again in the future.</p>
<p>The details of the automaker bailout look similar to the financial sector bailout in some ways&#8230;the government gets an equity stake in the companies in exchange for credit (for the automakers, this will be 20% of the credit given) and there are limits to dividends and executive compensation.  However, the automaker bailout has some differences and in many ways will function like a bankruptcy.  The government will appoint a &#8220;car czar&#8221; that will preside over the restructuring of the companies (not unlike a bankruptcy judge) and try get the companies to renegotiate agreements with the labor unions, suppliers, and other creditors so that the companies can eventually return to profitability.</p>
<p>There are some good parts of this plan.  The automakers need a bankruptcy restructuring so that they can get rid of their long term labor and other costs that put them at a permanent competitive disadvantage.  However, the Big 3 (and many others) believe that <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11058880?source=bb" target="_blank">bankruptcy is not a viable option</a> for the companies because no one would want to buy from a bankrupt car company and sales would further plummet.  So if this bailout can let the needed changes be made without technically calling it bankruptcy, that would be a good step.  And if the &#8220;car czar&#8221; feels that progress is not being made by one of the companies during the restructuring, he or she could withdraw the loan, which would basically force the bankruptcy and liquidation of the company (Harsh!)</p>
<p>However, the fact remains for the American car market that there is excess inventory and production that must come down.  The Big 3 are making more cars than people will buy.  There needs to be some consolidation and/or elimination of some brands or even whole companies (I&#8217;m looking at you Chrysler!).  GM cannot continue to make GMC and Chevy trucks.  There is no reason for Buick and Cadillac.  Pontiac has been dead in the water for some time (<a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/auto_industry_crisis" target="_blank">perhaps since 1991</a>?) even with this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Aztek" target="_blank">wonderful attempt</a>.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Chrysler is the most expendable and prime for making an example of, while preserving the other two larger companies.   I don&#8217;t see why a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/automobiles/15chrysler-web.html?ex=1336881600&amp;en=d0090bb258bc6aa8&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink" target="_blank">private equity firm</a> needs to be bailed out.  They made the decision to try to turn the company around and failed.  They should be allowed to fail, just like they would have been allowed to reap the profits if their turn around had succeeded.  If this means Chrysler has to be broken up or closed down, that would be fine.  Chrysler has some assets that could be sold&#8230;Dodge has some decent-selling cars that might make it an attractive fire-sale acquisition and the Jeep brand is still well known, even if Chrysler has watered it down (does the world really need a J<a href="http://www.jeep.com/en/" target="_blank">eep Compass, Cherokee, Liberty, and Patriot</a>?  They all look fairly similar to me&#8230;).</p>
<p>Ford seems to be in the best shape of the Big Three, since they lined up credit before the current credit contraction, but they still need to cut costs, reduce dealerships, and  make its fleet more competitive and fuel efficient (Yay Ford Focus!) if it is going to be viable in the long run.</p>
<p>What do you guys think?  Save em?  Let one or more crash?</p>
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